THROWBACK: Mike Shinoda (Linkin Park), On The State of Rock Music

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In our first interview ever from 2013, we interviewed the legendary Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park. As Altwire celebrates 10 years, we look back at the interview that started it all.

I remember hearing my first Linkin Park record when I was only fifteen years old. It was in the middle of my first year of Junior High thirteen years ago. I was heading home from school that afternoon when I first heard “One Step Closer” on the radio. Before listening to Linkin Park, I admittedly wasn’t much of a metal or rock fan. Back in the year 2000, MP3s and file-sharing were still in their infancy. My computer playlists of ‘downloaded songs’ were more likely to consist of Dr.Dre, Snoop Dogg, Outkast, Wu-Tang Clan, Eminem, or Nas than Linkin Park, KoRn, Disturbed, or any of the other hard-rock or metal acts that were popular in the earlier part of the last decade.

But something was different about this band. Something had pulled me in despite my hip-hop roots, and I was intrigued about this ‘hot new band from Southern California’. I decided it was time for me to find out more, and twenty minutes later, I was home, pulling up their website on my excruciatingly slow 56k connection, replaying the stream of “One Step Closer” over and over to the point I probably made my dad want to bash his forehead repeatedly into the wall. It was then that I bribed, no – asked my dad to drive me to Best Buy and buy me Hybrid Theory so I could listen to the album in its entirety. I probably could’ve been studying for an upcoming test or working on homework, but…nothing was going to keep me from listening to that album! Teenage priorities for the win!

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To say that the album was a life-changer would be an understatement. My introduction to harder rock music via Hybrid Theory would lead to my music tastes evolving to include all the rock music I had been missing at the time, and eventually would grow to all types of rock music, both indie and mainstream. In the weeks and months that followed my first introduction to the band, I’d sneak onto on my school’s library computers, taking any opportunity I could to post on the Linkin Park Message Boards and Chat Room, meet new friends, and learn more things about the band in the process. On those forums, I would meet a longtime friend of mine, Omar, who decided with me that it was time to open up a website to show our support for Linkin Park.

In the years that followed, that website (The Linkin Park Association) would take us to places we’d never thought imaginable. Millions of people from all over the globe have visited the site since its founding, and the staff and I have become friends with people from all different walks of life and many different countries. As for me? A lot has changed in those 13 years. I’ve grown older (pushing 30, but who’s counting?), and I am thoroughly convinced I’ve found my first gray hairs -although my parents think I’m seeing things- and I’ve changed a lot from the naive fifteen-year-old who opened up that site with no inclination of how big it would eventually become.

It’s the very success of the LPA that made it possible for AltWire to exist as a community in the first place, and much of AltWire’s history is in direct thanks to Linkin Park and its music. I think it is fair to say that the website owes its birth to a chance listening of “One Step Closer” all those years ago.

As for my appreciation of Linkin Park? It has never faltered. In the years that have come and gone, I’ve followed the band and their music. Through watching their development as artists over the last few years, I’ll admit to being pretty excited about their upcoming album.

Recently, AltWire had the opportunity to ask Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park a few quick questions. For those who may have been living under a rock, Mike Shinoda is best known as the rapper, principal songwriter, keyboardist, rhythm guitarist, and one of the two lead vocalists in Linkin Park. His projects have ranged from his side project Fort Minor, scoring the US version of The Raid, designing a limited edition clothing line, hosting two different art shows containing his artwork, and various other endeavors.

In the questions that follow, we discuss the band’s upcoming new record, Mike’s current thoughts on the rock music industry as a whole, and much, much more. Enjoy.

AltWire/LPA [Derek]: Maintaining the drive to continually record and produce music seems like it would be a difficult challenge in the long run. Who or what inspires you to continue the work that you do, and where do you look for motivation these days?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park: When it was our first or second album, we had a more limited scope of the aspects of what we do. And it went beyond writing and recording; I’m talking about the whole picture–how a release and an experience feels to a fan. In general, as we’ve made more albums and experimented with many things both in and out of the studio, we learned how to be better artists, better songwriters, better performers, better designers, better community builders, and better communicators. I wouldn’t say we “raise the bar” each time or that every move we’ve made is better than the last. It’s often all about the journey, taking risks, and enjoying what we’re doing at the time. But while we’re doing that, we strive to innovate and achieve.

AW: You recently made some very interesting comments on the state of rock music, and how the genre has gone soft. Are you unsatisfied with the current version of rock music?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park: The question is, what’s “rock” right now? Mumford and Sons? Capital Cities? AVICII? Vampire Weekend? Lorde? Arcade Fire has basically gone disco, and Trent Reznor spends too much of the new Nine Inch Nails album whispering–and I truly like all these bands; I’m just saying there’s something missing. I guess it doesn’t have to be “rock,” but I’m at a loss for something else I’d call it. I’m looking for ferocity, innovation, and energy without giving up songwriting, sophistication, and craftsmanship. It’s a tall order; even if we’re able to address it on our next Linkin Park album, it’ll take more than one band to really move the needle.

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AW: Just two songs from your first five studio albums have eclipsed the 5-minute mark in length. In the future, are you open to writing longer songs and worrying about radio edits afterward?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park: Sure, I’m open. It’ll happen if it happens–I really don’t write a song to fit a certain time length. When we make a song, the song length is dictated by how the “story arc” of the song progresses.

AW: Is the process for the writing/recording of the next album any different this time around, with Chester off doing his own thing with STP? What challenges does this bring forth?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park: He knew what he was signing up for–it’s very hectic for him, but he’s making it work! I don’t think our progress has been negatively affected in any major way by the STP shows.

AW: You’ve been touring as Linkin Park for over 14 years. How do you balance keeping your live setlists fresh for yourselves vs. appeasing the fans? Are you sick of playing One Step Closer yet?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park:  I think Mike Einziger (or Incubus) said it best; I’ll paraphrase: when I’m onstage, I’m not thinking about what my hands are playing or how the notes go. I’m engrossed in the experience of connecting with the fans, on that stage in that city. So with that said, it kinda doesn’t matter what song we’re playing as long as everyone is into it.

AW: Although you did do a short run of European Projekt Revolution shows in 2011, the last time we saw a full-scale Projekt Revolution tour was back in 2008. Are there any plans to bring back Projekt Revolution in the future?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park: I don’t know if that will come back in name, but I hope to do a more robust U.S. tour in the next couple of years. We’ve missed playing in a lot of places in the U.S. because there has been such incredible demand overseas. I suppose it’s a great problem to have!

AW: What have you taken away from the process of creating video games?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park: One side project I really enjoyed working on was the game. As you know, I was a visual artist before I was a musician–I majored in Illustration and design in art school and always thought I’d be a designer or painter of some kind. I also grew up drawing video game characters like Mega Man, Samus from Metroid, or Mario and Luigi. So, being able to create and sculpt the characters in RECHARGE was a dream come true.

AW: Your gear and instrument collection constantly evolves with each album cycle. What kind of gear are you working with in the studio right now? Anything new that might surprise some people?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park: I’m playing with a lot of different things; I don’t want to give away any surprises because they might be a part of the next phase in our sound or tour. One interesting thing is that we’re expanding off the usual platforms: we’re working on Mac and Windows, and we’re working in Ableton in addition to Protools. And we’re trying to get off of the computer as well, which is unusual for us.

Music For Relief. A charity made by Linkin Park. Mike Shinoda discusses some of their initiatives in this article.

AW: With the recent Typhoon in the Philippines, what is the band doing to support those affected by Super Typhoon Haiyan?

Mike Shinoda / Linkin Park:  The band and Music For Relief are fully committed to raising funds and awareness for the victims of Typhoon Haiyan, which has forced over half a million people from their homes and killed over 10,000 and counting. One: we’re accepting donations at Two: we’re going to offer an upgrade item in the game: you get a character boost, and the purchase money goes to Haiyan relief. Three: we are in talks to put together a fundraiser event. Our partner on the effort is International Medical Corps., one of most renowned and experienced disaster relief organizations in the world. And our (MFR’s) overhead for programs like this have historically been close to nothing because people donate their time, we offset costs with our own (LP) contribution, and we try to work with partners who will waive fees when it’s a philanthropic effort. I encourage every person reading this to go to right now and donate–there are literally millions of people who need your help.

“I’LL BE GONE (Vice Remix) Feat Pusha T” from Linkin Park’s RECHARGED Remix Album:

*BONUS* In the decade since this interview took place, we’ve done many more interviews with Mike Shinoda. Read them all here.

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